Don’t Panic! Five Reasons the EDM Ship Isn’t Sinking
Just a couple days ago, I underwent a bit of minor surgery which sidelined me from writing or listening to any dance music. In my painkiller induced stupor, I could only read and think. What particularly struck me when I was perusing message boards, blog comments, and soundcloud discourse was how doom and gloom everything seems to be. Electronic music has for the last five years been my world, I produce, I DJ, I write and interview, and most of all I love to dance. Yet, my world doesn’t seem to be crashing down around me, in fact things haven’t really seemed to change all that much.
Sure there’s a whole celebrity bandwagon that’s barreling around the corner, eager to capitalize on EDM’s swift rise to popularity in the United States. But really what does that mean to me, or to the artists, or really to anyone for that matter? Yeah, Ultra 2014 tickets early birds sold out in minutes and were replaced with $500 GA’s. So, what? I’ve never been to Ultra, I’ve never been to EDC, unless you count EDC Denver when we still had the festival. I didn’t really have plans to attend any big festivals this year anyways, I’m broke as a joke. But really, can anyone tell me why the music I love so dearly is going to die? I’ve heard a lot of complaining lately and a lot of prophecies of doom… but then again I’ve been hearing it for the last five years too.
So I’m coming off my sick bed to argue what I think is a very important point. The EDM ship isn’t sinking… dance music isn’t dead, nor is it dying. Sure things are changing… they always are. But for the last 30 years electronically created music has been on an ebb and flow, to think that the state of our scene right now can change or destroy that… That’s plain silly and here’s why.
1. The Cynics and The Haters Always Speak the Loudest.
Before I started writing for Your EDM, I didn’t take criticism very well. I always do my damned best to make sure my work is the best quality it can be and to make sure it reflects who I am and what I believe. However, it became quickly apparent that a lot of people on the internet absolutely despise me and my stupid-awful opinions on a core level. Even when I thought I put out my best piece ever, captain keyboard commando would be there to remind me how inbred I was and that I should never ever for the sake of humanity write again.
This doesn’t bother me anymore, not in the slightest. But what I have noticed is that anytime we’d report something like ‘Paris Hilton’s New Album to Be Produced By Afrojack’, we’d get tons of comments and messages saying things along the lines of EDM is dead, house music is dead, everything is awful and I’m about to go take a bath with my toaster. Let’s be real, stories like that tend to generate publicity, negative news sells and the most radical voices are the ones that drown out the content murmurs of the larger whole. The most pessimistic voices seem to ring out the loudest, but this simply isn’t an indicator of the reality. The Westboro Baptist Church, for example get’s an absurd amount of press time for being like 30 people who are mostly related (in the creepiest borderline illegal way possible) to one another. But this brings me into my next point, just like singular voices don’t speak for the whole, individual artists alone cannot make or break a scene let alone an entire movement of music.
2. No one can single handedly destroy a genre let alone the entire scene.
I remember back when I was a Sophomore, around 2010-2011- during the rise of Complextro and other sorts of multisound craziness- hearing a new name. My friends had just come back from a Deadmau5 show one night at The Fillmore in Denver and were absolutely raving about the opening act. Of course, the opener was none other than Skrillex who at the time was basically no one. After looking him up and finding he was none other than Sonny Moore of From First to Last, I gave his debut EP a listen through. I wasn’t quite sold at first, but his sound nonetheless fascinated me. It was fresh and different and after a while I was a solid Skrillex fanboy, I’m coming clean right now. Brostep as it came to be blew up in my town of Boulder and it was near impossible to avoid hearing Skrillex and Rusko tracks just about anywhere you went, (hell I even got a haircut to O.M.G once, on loop- yes it took that long, I’m a girl about my hair). Then, something happened.
Every producer I knew in Boulder and the world at large was trying to emulate Skrill’s sound design and arrangement. UKF Dubstep was in its prime and even I couldn’t seem to put enough filth into my ear holes, which were otherwise reserved for House. Message boards I would frequent, which were full of Future Garage enthusiasts and blue in the blood UK Dubstep fans however were far less than pleased with this development. People began to turn against the sudden popular rise of this new sound, which many felt missed the point of the original movement, (in many ways they were right). The phrase Skrillex killed dubstep was thrown around to the point where it could have been used as a greeting, “Hi how’s it going? Skrillex killed Dubstep!”
But my point is Skrillex never killed anything. Sure he inspired a generation of would be dubstep artists and standardized a sound, but Dubstep didn’t go anywhere. I still hear plenty of Dubstep in clubs and at parties and at festivals, I don’t think anyone can disagree with me there. Sure certain artists like Benassi and even Kaskade tried their hand at making it, but ultimately the bass movement is in the hands of a whole different people right now and it has splintered, changed and grown as a result. Now we have all sorts of nice things like Trap, Glitchhop, and Moombah enjoying a decent level of popularity…
3. The times and artists change, get used to it.
I could keep blabbing on and on about what I like to call the Skrillpocalypse that never was, but I’ll spare you on that. During, my time I spent incapacitated, I came across a very interesting article written by one of my favorite artists, Laidback Luke for the Huffington Post. Lucas has been in the electronic game for a long, and I mean a really long time. While many of you may mostly associate him with tracks like Turbulence and his Dirty Talk remix there are tons of people out there who remember him during his tehcno days in the late 90’s. Check it out below.
Whatever pills they had in the 90’s, I want some.
The case and point being, is that your favorite artists have the right to make the music they want. Of course, artists want their fans to like what they release, but more importantly to them is making the music they want. Laidback Luke said himself, “Followers who don’t see the bigger picture, get worried. It’s a discussion I have with my older following every two to three years. It seems that when you’re in between 18 and 23 years old, you cling onto certain songs for life. Those will be yours forever and occasionally something new will come through. It’s a very common human trait. It only sucks for the artist trying to move on. ‘He’s lost it. He forgot how to produce!”
I might make some exceptions to Laidback Luke’s claim. Totally not trying to single anyone out…
We really only need to look as far as Random Access Memories to illustrate this. I like many other EDM enthusiasts grew up with Daft Punk’s hits and judged RAM in the same light as say, Around The World. Unfortunately, this comparison couldn’t be more damaging, especially when we judge the newest works in the same light and by the same standards that we apply to the already established classics; 4×4=12 pales in comparison to Random Album Title in many peoples mind. Why is this? Was it because Deadmau5 forgot how to produce or didn’t take his time? No, it’s simply because we are expecting new classics to be instantly created in a near copycat style with somehow fresh execution. Simply put, we want change without change. If you judge anything by this standard it’s easy to be disappointed. We wanted Daft Punk to give us something revolutionary, but only insofar as it was exactly what have come to expect.
4. Money talks, but it doesn’t say much.
A lot of people saw EDM’s explosion in the United States coming. Anyone who’s taken a simple economics class could have told you how the cookie was going to crumble for EDM in the US. To be frank, we capitalize and commercialize everything ad nauseum; once the guys up top saw how many people they could get to buy $500 GA Tickets and $10 beers, it was practically over at that point.
Now this isn’t necessarily a bad thing, to be fair it’s brought an insane level of production value to events and spread the amount of locations and attendees. The money that has accumulated around this scene has also been a boon to foreign artists. I’ve had the chance to sit down with some of the biggest names in the game and I can’t think of a single artist who has said they don’t like what’s happened in the American Market. Simply, the money brings all the artists to the yard.
Pictured: Lots and lots of money.
I’ve heard a lot of people complain that money is ruining artists. This may be somewhat true, but it doesn’t mean a thing for EDM on the whole. I won’t beat this one to death and just simply say, going for the money will eventually alienate a fan base. Making bad, mass produced tracks, and messing with pre-recorded sets pisses people off (SHM we’re looking at you), its essentially unsustainable and leaves artists open to be replaced by others who are doing genuinely good work regardless of motivation… The same can be said for the state of live EDM as well.
So long as there is a demand for EDM, the “bubble” won’t pop. It will react to demand (back to economics here again). It’s not up to artists or the fans to provide these experiences, so quite frankly it’s up to companies like Insomniac and now AEG Live to satisfy would be ravers. It’s not unthinkable that mismanagement could drive certain festivals off the map (it has before), but so long as there is a demand, something else will rise up. You have a choice, don’t throw your money at something you don’t like… Which segues into my next point.
5. Don’t panic, this is your scene, your music, you have a choice stop pretending otherwise.
I stopped covering Spinnin’ Records songs. There I said it, it’s out in the open. I dislike 90% of what that label has been putting out. At one point, I used to adore the label, but in my opinion it’s devolved into awful cut-and-paste formula based music printer whose tracks aren’t worth more than 4 clicks and 20 seconds of my time. To me, that doesn’t signify that EDM is dying, just because a handful of labels and artists are riding a successful formula into the goddamn ground. No, infact the exact opposite is true, for every SR release I hear maybe fifty or more tracks that make a genuine effort to be an actual creative piece we like to call a song. All this means is that I have to actively search out artists that I like because my once favorite labels and artists are no longer shoveling hit after hit down my throat.
I’m not alone in this, there’s a lot of frustrated people out there. I do read your comments and believe me I agree with a lot of them. While I have a lot less choice than most people in what I listen to (the whole writer bit sometimes sucks, I have to trudge through bad song after bad song just to bring you all the freshest offerings I can) you very much have a choice. If you don’t like the commercial bullshit that’s coming out, don’t just complain about it. Don’t buy it. In fact, don’t stop there, make it a point to support the artists and labels you like. If you want to hear more of something, don’t just listen to it, buy it, see what else their label or collective has to offer.
It seems like a lot of people have become so cynical that they have forgotten they have a choice in how the scene progresses. The celebrity bandwagoning won’t hurt EDM at all. Guess who’s not going to be buying Nick Cannon’s or Paris Hilton’s albums? This guy. Guess who won’t see DJ Pauly D? You guessed it. I report on those sort of things only because, that’s my job. I might listen to it out of morbid curiosity, but I’m not going to lose any sleep because a bunch of has beens are making house albums. You have a choice in the shows you go to, the music you listen to, and the artists you support. The mainstream may not always reflect your tastes but that hardly means you should consider EDM dead or even in decline. Hell, that’s why we named this website Your EDM. It’s your music and your scene, stop anticipating and start participating, the ship isn’t sinking there’s plenty of good times to look forward to.
Seriously though, there’s no way I’m letting this ruin EDM for me.
So, can we all take a deep breath and take a step back, EDM has been here for thirty plus years. That’s not going to change anytime soon.
Thank you 🙂
Nice article, well said.
Fantastic.
WELL F*CKING SAID! Love this!
nice one. really worth reading 🙂
One of the best article about EDM.
When people say Skrillex killed they are not talking about Brostep with it’s We Will rock you drum arrangement. They are talking about Uk Dubstep, ‘real’ dubstep sub basses an intricate rhythms.
Incredible Article! Worth a read for all EDM fans, he expressed almost exactly how I, and I’m sure many others, feel.
My thoughts captured in letters on a page.
Keep on Keepin on.
My rebuttal
1) People who support an idea, or a way of life can speak as loud IF NOT LOUDER than those who negatively criticize. Westboro baptist church is your example of a negative. Well, the people that choose to stand against them are the positive. I’m active duty military. The WBC has attempted to protest multiple military funerals within the last 2 or 3 years and all of them have failed as they have been turned away with a fighting resistance. Most times they are sent home without even being able to set up. I’ve been one of the people who have constantly criticized the mundane boring nature that electronica (I hate calling it EDM, back in my day it was electronica) has become. My complaints come as someone who has been into the genre since 1999. Yes we WANTED our lifestyle to go mainstream. But when we wanted our lifestyle to go mainstream, we didn’t want it to become commercialized. THAT is what was special about our scene back then. Underground raves, seeing DJ’s actually spin and not just press play, and the fans being into it for the love of the music, not just because it’s the flavor of the day. PLUR has been commercialized, music festivals are considered raves. This is blasphemy to the purists. Also Individual artists CAN AND HAVE make or break the scene. Individual artists like Skrillex and what he has done with dubstep, Benny Benassi, and what he’s done with electro house, David Guetta, and how he helped the entire scene as a whole by pushing it mainstream. Armin Van Buuren and what he has done with Trance. Etc…
2) A different sound is always refreshing. Music in general has slowly wasted away in my opinion. But I’m no different then my parents who say music of my time was wasting away, and no different then their parents. The only kind of dubstep that was popular in my day was the UKF kind. The noise that came from the United States, was hated by almost everyone else except the people in the United States. No one liked dubstep. That being said, I don’t think Skrillex killed it, he brought waves upon waves of people INTO the genre. What he did, w as kill the original sound of dubstep. The dubstep as I know it, and the dubstep of today are two totally different things. Outside of the occasional (and often weak) bass drop. There is no resemblance. Again, as a man who has been into electronica for over 10 years, I’ve noticed that Skrillex isn’t really a DJ. He’s a good producer but he isn’t a good DJ. DJ’ing is such an integral part of the scene for geezers like me who have been around a minute, and it makes or breaks you as an artist. This is what Deadmau5, Diplo, and Wolfgang Gartner all focus on in their complaints. Again, it’s the purists who want our scene to be enjoyable, but we want you to enjoy it like we’ve learned to enjoy it. Not like corporate America TELLS you to enjoy it.
3) Times have indeed changed. Tiesto is producing house tracks instead of his classic trance sets. Showtek is moving away from hardstyle, Paris Hilton is getting in on the DJ scene. I could go on forever. People get this idea that purists such as myself think we only want to hear one sound. I remember the days prior to Tiesto becoming a trance legend. Everyone thought that Tiesto was changing the game too much. Tiesto, in my opinion is the one who put electronica on the map (not David Guetta or Skrillex) in the United States. Tiesto had some of the first fully sold out shows at main venues. Just like now how everyone screams MOLLLLLYYYYYY at a Dance Music Festival (still refusing to call them raves) Everyone would scream TIESSSTTTTOOOOOOO, and the purists of that time hated it. We’re not nervous about the changing of a sound. Out of all the top DJ’s in the world, no DJ has 2 albums that sound a like. We EMBRACE a new sound or different sound. We’re nervous about our scene, a scene WE helped create being destroyed not by the DJs but by the people who say they are fans. Again, as I said earlier. We don’t care about the change of the sound. Although it’s become blatantly obvious that some artists just aren’t trying. it’s the scene that worries us. We want to make what MADE electronica popular for us, enjoyable for you. You can’t do that in a commercialized, environment. We also hate when you call our music “techno” and then claim to have been into the genre for ages. Techno is a SUBGENRE of electronica.” Techno” as you people use it is the label people who hated electronic music used for us as they assumed we were all a bunch of doped up party animals that lived recklessly. So don’t call it Techno. If you’re old school its electronica or electronic. If you’re apart of this new wave, it’s EDM.
4) A running theme in my rebuttal that I won’t elaborate on. It’s not so much about the money, as it is the commercialization of our lifestyle. When EDC is considered a rave, it’s become about the money. When it becomes more about the fame and capitalizing on our lifestyle, it’s about the money. And A LOT of DJ’s are doing that.
5) There is the group of EDM fanatics who came around 2010-2011, and then there was the pre-phase when there was a group coming around in 08-09. That started with Guettas “Sexy Bitch”. Just because you’ve gone out and researched some of the older music, doesn’t mean you’ve got a grasp on how it was back then. I’m not saying my view of the scene was superior, but the full experiences comes with the ability of being there. And if you came into this lifestyle anything before 2008, you can’t really say that you’ve been apart of OUR scene. Because my scene and the scene that started 08- present are two extremely different scenes. And the old school chaps like myself try to separate ourselves because what you kids are doing today is the exact opposite of what we believed in back then. I was once told I sound like an old man reminiscing on woodstock 69. That may be true. Somehow however, there is this perception that “just don’t buy it” will appease the complaints. The complaints don’t stem from whether or not we will support an artist by purchasing his/her/their music. It stems from the fact that the commercialized mundane music will continue to be popular. Not purchasing the music doesn’t satisfy nor address the complaint. What has been ours for decades has been turned into trash because everyone else has joined. As I’ve implied earlier, this isn’t just a scene for those of us who have been around a while. It’s a lifestyle. So while this article is much appreciated, to a guy like me who has been around a while, it doesn’t really address anything. It only addresses what YOU think is the problem.
Respect !
While you say that he’s addressing he think’s is the problem, you’re now addressing what you think is the problem. And your definition of ‘commercialized’ is very weak. While I agree with your viewpoint, I also agree with Brett’s. The problem is you are both classing EDM into one big ball, and trying to paint it over with a broad brush. No. Both arguments aren’t arguments, their is failure to prove why factually the scene is going stay or go. And that’s because there isn’t. You can think and think and think, but you can never be sure about something. We don’t know that Psy-trance is going to come back tomorrow with a brand new sound and make it big again, it’s like the weather. This is a brilliant article, but it shouldn’t be called ‘5 reasons why the EDM ship isn’t sinking’, but ‘5 Reasons why the EDM ship shouldn’t sink’.
While you say that he’s addressing he think’s is the problem, you’re now addressing what you think is the problem. And your definition of ‘commercialized’ is very weak. While I agree with your viewpoint, I also agree with Brett’s. The problem is you are both classing EDM into one big ball, and trying to paint it over with a broad brush. No. Both arguments aren’t arguments, their is failure to prove why factually the scene is going stay or go. And that’s because there isn’t. You can think and think and think, but you can never be sure about something. We don’t know that Psy-trance is going to come back tomorrow with a brand new sound and make it big again, it’s like the weather. This is a brilliant article, but it shouldn’t be called ‘5 reasons why the EDM ship isn’t sinking’, but ‘5 Reasons why the EDM ship shouldn’t sink’.
I’m going to share it RIGHT NOW.
I’m sorry what? How could I only be addressing what I “THINK” is the problem. The article makes arguments against those such as myself, who think that the “EDM” ship is sinking, and was only a rebuttal to such comments. All I did was correct the way he views our complaints, and I say our because the complaints all have common themes. Secondly, How is my definition of commercialization weak? All I said was the days of underground raves in abandoned warehouses are over, and have been replaced in favor of corporate sponsored events. The scene was ours because we MADE it that way. Today the scene is the way it is because the media has portrayed it that way, and that’s what the fans reflect upon. Which turns profit for anyone who sponsors or participates in a festival. Even where i’m from where the rave scene wasn’t that strong, there was no way you’d pay to get in. The only thing you needed to know is where the rave was, and how to have fun. Depending on the music festival you could run up to $150 PER TICKET. Then you’re still paying out the ass prices for beer, water, blah blah blah. If that isn’t commercialization, I don’t know what is. No one is trying to prove why factually the scene is going to stay or go. Complaints from people such as myself are trying to provide why these new kids are turning our lifestyle upside down. THAT is why I said the article doesn’t address the problem. Because THAT is the problem. Granted I’m 26. I decided to scale back from the raving scene just as it started to take off in the US, this only makes for a point.
I don’t think most people that complain about Skrillex even know about the original dubstep movements. They just want a poster boy to complain about so they can be a music hipster and say they’ve been “listening to EDM forever, since like at least 2009”.
so good<3
This is the most spot-on article I’ve read on this topic and should be stapled to the forehead of every single person whining about pop on Facebook like they’re somehow the ones who get to witness the end of music after decades of the same trend.
Great Article. Very good points.
You should give Electric Forest a try next year. Not sure if you’ve been to it before or not. But EMF, EDC, WMF, all of those festivals only have 1 thing better than EF, more people. Everything else EF has way better.
Am I the only person who thought this article was about problems with the Holy Ship! boat, since that event is currently underway. Great article though. I get so tired of all the people who constantly find things to complain about after an amazing festival.
Very well done article my friend. I’ve been trying to tell this to people who say it’s dying. The true fans support will keep it alive and long living. Why would we ever let something we love die when it’s our choice on its future?
Very well done article my friend. I’ve been trying to tell this to people who say it’s dying. The true fans support will keep it alive and long living. Why would we ever let something we love die when it’s our choice on its future?
Excellent article! Very spot on. EDM or electronica is here to stay